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| AA500 | Apr 9 2014, 05:38 PM Post #1 |
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Should incest be legal? Why or why not? |
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Apr 9 2014, 05:50 PM Post #2 |
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The question really should be "why not?" Every argument against incest today is a societal one. It used to be perfectly normal. The only halfway decent argument I've ever seen against it is that it can cause disease and deformities, which isn't even wholly true. It can cause genetic errors and discrepancies, but if you actually look into it it doesn't really cause problems like that very often, if at all, unless several people in your genetic line have been relatives. Does that make sense? Meh. And even then, not all incestual couples are going to have kids, so that's a very limited viewpoint. Anyway, I don't see a problem with it as long as both parties are consensual. It's too weird for me because of the way I've grown up in society, but people are free to do and believe in whatever they want. You love who you love. |
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| EMIYA | Apr 9 2014, 06:15 PM Post #3 |
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If going by say sibling incest, there is obviously a very high increase of potential issues that can arise. So regardless of morality of the situation, the physical scientific evidence is very well there. Regardless beyond that, if two siblings want to get together, I don't really care. I suppose in the long run if the potential issues get out of hand on a societal level, it could prove problematic. This is why our reproduction ability is so much superior to say, a way a bacteria might reproduce by cloning. It's because our reproduction allows for more different variables to be introduced, those mix of dominant and recessive genes. Siblings however have very similar genes and so their kids will be much more likely to inherit the destructive genes of their parents as they will the positive ones. And if their children have relationships with their own siblings and so on and so forth, then you don't get any variability with the genes that much. Now of course when it comes say cousin relationship, a similar standing but not nearly as bad. There's about I believe a 50% increase of issues occurring between a 1st cousin relationship and non-cousin relationship. Which may sound pretty bad until you realize that this actually the difference between the I believe 2-3% potential problem increase for Non-Cousin Marriage and a 4-6% increase between 1st cousin relationships. And the percent drops for second and third cousin relationships as well. While for sibling relationships, morally you should just shut the hell up and mind your own business, but on a biological and psychological scale, you could probably make some arguments. For cousin marriages, you've got a lot less to work with there. |
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| Kienzan | Apr 9 2014, 06:31 PM Post #4 |
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Just the thought of it disgusts me |
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Apr 9 2014, 06:38 PM Post #5 |
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Yeah, and just the thought of gay relationships disgust some people. Or French toast. Lol |
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| + Pointer | Apr 9 2014, 06:57 PM Post #6 |
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Incest between Brother and sister... Lets analyze the situation They f*** regularly...stating that it is only for the pleasure. It might be extremely cool in a short term, but...It does not matter what they stated They will ruin their brother sister relationship by the very first sexual intercourse... And from that point on They will no longer be brother and sister ....The post relationship was neither a normal nor a causal family relationship.. I d say Incest shall never ever happen in a balanced family.. Nonetheless I think if either of the two person thinks that he/she wants to have sex with his/her blood relative is a mentaly sick person and should see a therapist sooner or later |
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| Kienzan | Apr 9 2014, 06:58 PM Post #7 |
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No, I meant doing it myself. Imagining that kind of think with my family members makes me feel sick |
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| + Pointer | Apr 9 2014, 07:01 PM Post #8 |
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not to mention the further issues.....If they are not secure enough and the sister gets pregnant the child will be deflected. And that will cause another future problems....both legally and other way |
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| lunar2 | Apr 9 2014, 07:04 PM Post #9 |
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it is entirely possible to have a relationship that works on multiple levels. for example, long term married couple experience familial love towards each other just as much as, if not more than, romantic love. having one type of love towards a person does not preclude having the other types, as well. |
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| + Pointer | Apr 9 2014, 07:11 PM Post #10 |
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You can love your sister ...but I reckon a normal person should not love his/her sibling as he d love his future wife/husband |
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| + Pelador | Apr 9 2014, 07:36 PM Post #11 |
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I have no issues with it. Not hurting anyone. |
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| Sam | Apr 9 2014, 07:58 PM Post #12 |
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Defected, you mean, not deflected? I guess I subscribe to why not as well. I don't have an opposite sex sibling. |
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| Master Gohan | Apr 9 2014, 08:45 PM Post #13 |
 
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That's just gross. Just thinking about it makes me sick. I think if you have incest sex you aren't right in the head. |
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Apr 9 2014, 09:01 PM Post #14 |
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I'm not sure on this. I have five brothers, and no sisters, and I'm not attracted to men, so I probably wouldn't understand this fully. But, I do know that sexuality isn't black or white. Some people can be sexually attracted to their siblings. That's not a birth defect, it's just the way they are. If incest is wrong, homosexuality is wrong. People are born differently. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Apr 9 2014, 09:08 PM Post #15 |
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Let's think about it this way... Two people meet and fall in love. Then they discover, through whatever means and reasoning, that they are siblings. What do they do then? Stop being together just because society labels it "gross" and "not okay?" Personally, if I were in that position I would go against what society tells me if it meant being with the person I had fallen in love with, and I'm sure many people would do the same. I wonder how gay couples felt a couple of decades ago when they were killed in the streets simply for being different and because it was considered "gross" and "immoral." Today we have a lot more leniency toward that particular issue. Incest isn't the exact same issue, but it is very similar. Incest was considered normal for hundreds of years and can be found in a surplus of history and literature pre-19th century. Cousins were often married off to each other to preserve high status or wealth. Ever heard the phrase "let's keep it within the family?" Keeping it within the family was actually the most desirable option back then, as it meant keeping within a higher status. Some cousins legitimately loved each other, as was the case with Queen Victoria and her cousin (what was it?) Albert? She fell for him and pursued him until they were married in their late teens, and they stayed married. Siblings is taking it a step farther, I will admit, but only because in our society siblings live with each other until they are of age to leave the house and grow up with that close "sibling" bond (usually). However, it has been shown in history and in literature that siblings can and will fall in love with each other given the proper circumstances and societal/cultural exposures. Take, for example, the popular novel The Flowers in the Attic by VC Andrews, where two siblings fall in love with each other after being cooped up together in an attic for years by their abusive relative (I think it was the mother). Throughout the novel and its sequels, they learn to cope with their "weird" relationship and the child that they have together. Going back before the publication of that particular book, loving sibling relationships have been recorded in both history and literature. I wish I had more examples to pull from off the top of my head, but I guess I could always go back and edit this post later on if I want to. Only in our modern society have familial relationship been viewed as disgusting. And why is that? Culture, obviously, as I have already mentioned multiple times. And like someone else has already mentioned in this thread, you can develop sexual and loving feelings for someone that you already have a "sibling" bond with. There are multiple forms of love and relationships, so it's silly to limit yourself to one idea of love. I'll use one more popular example. Luke and Leia from Star Wars. I'm sure if you can remember your first time watching the movie without any knowledge of it, you were rooting for Luke and Leia to get together and didn't mind their kiss. I'm sure they didn't mind it either. That is, until we discover that they're actually twins, and then we're repulsed. But why are we repulsed? It's obviously not because they don't go well together, because they do. They do have chemistry and love for one another. It's gross because in our modern society, siblings do not fall in love and kiss. That is disgusting. See my point? |
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